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Title: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on January 28, 2010, 06:11:32 PM
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With no warning it was abruptly there. No more than 75 yards to our left, a silent brightly lit sphere of bluish white light about the size of a basketball hovered. It moved slightly, as if swaying gently. The dogs seemed to be alert, they were right behind us. The object was not more than fifteen feet off the ground. It seemed to be bobbing and it was bright enough that I could see the grass lit up. It generated the bluish white incandescent light from within the sphere. There were no obstructions in our line of sight. The thing was definitely in the same small pasture as we were. I noticed a blanket of silence had descended. I could not hear any wild life sounds. We stared and, just as abruptly, it was gone.

quoted directly from Colm Kelleher.  This is IDENTICAL to what we witnessed expect whatever it was actually landed next to us and transmutated.  The day we saw the lights there was probably about 8-12 of these wizzing around the area.  These things are very real people, what they are remains open for speculation.

here is an actual photo of the orbs
(http://www.skinwalkerranch.org/media/albums/phenoma/securedownload1.jpg)

here is my rendition of what it looked like above my head as it flew over
(http://www.skinwalkerranch.org/media/albums/phenoma/skinorbs.jpg)

any anyone who questions these things ability to speak telepathically please read this quote regarding the orbs
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It's still moving" he was muttering. All of a sudden he yelled. "Its got me", "its saying: "we are watching you" he continued, his voice rising a couple of octaves. Then there was silence. I continued trying to take increasingly longer exposures to try to catch whatever he was talking about. Every time I looked up from my camera to see if I could see what was causing him such intense anxiety, I could see nothing except the dark shadows of the tree line directly in front of me. The feeling in the pasture was very spooky, a chilling desolate feeling. Then he said:"its getting smaller".

the abandoned homestead the book refers to where the orb made its appearan
(http://www.skinwalkerranch.org/media/albums/userpics/10001/skinwalker~0.jpg)

youtube video of the orbs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0FyvfROx60
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on August 09, 2010, 12:13:24 AM

had some free time today and started drawing based both on my memory  for my first hand close encounter with these last year, and from of the countless stories of others who have described these orbs seen around the ranch and basin.


here is the picture i drew last year

(http://www.skinwalkerranch.org/media/albums/phenoma/skinorbs.jpg)
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: rbsredtruck on August 09, 2010, 02:23:57 PM
 That is just exactly like what I have seen. I've never heard the voices( i did hear casual whistling 3 miles from any road). Although i have felt extreme fear when i see this thing. Does it judge you by your intentions? Or does it just control what you feel so you dont have the wrong intentions? I still havent got a copy of the book, but will be getting one soon. Any thoughts about the cow  i was telling you about in my intro? Was there this weekend and this thing was still not "eaten" by any scavengers but it was getting pretty gross from the flies and all.
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on August 09, 2010, 03:05:19 PM
sorry my picture didnt post last night, not sure if you saw this yet... i just rendered it.
(http://s3.postimage.org/MX2U0.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqMX2U0)

click to enlarge photo
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on August 09, 2010, 03:11:17 PM
That is just exactly like what I have seen. I've never heard the voices( i did hear casual whistling 3 miles from any road). Although i have felt extreme fear when i see this thing. Does it judge you by your intentions? Or does it just control what you feel so you dont have the wrong intentions? I still havent got a copy of the book, but will be getting one soon. Any thoughts about the cow  i was telling you about in my intro? Was there this weekend and this thing was still not "eaten" by any scavengers but it was getting pretty gross from the flies and all.

It instills pure raw panic and fear.... actually i cant decide if it generates the emotion or the realization that you are actually witnessing a very real alien presence and it is aware of you and your brain goes into an instinctual flight or fight response.  I assume it would be similiar to an animal meeting a human and running in blind fear... we are meeting a far superior intelligence and perhaps out of ignorance or some primitive precognition we are predisposed to flee in sheer terror.  Or the orbs themselves generate this state (which is a very real possability).   It also has the ability to detect you even if you were to hide and the black of night offers to cover... nor does distance.  If you see it...then it has likewise seen you despite how cleaver you think you are.  I have never heard any noise associated with these, and the voices were  a seperate event, but a common one to the ranch and utinah area.

Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on August 09, 2010, 03:13:23 PM
also i find it extremely interested that this same object is localized to the region and adds some consistancy to what haunts the area.  We are all seeing the same thing, what the hell are these things and what purpose?  Did you get the impression that they were artificially flow or had a biological intelligence?
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: rbsredtruck on August 09, 2010, 07:35:52 PM
I don't think that it is  controlled or artifically flown. I read somewhere on here that some people think that it is terresrial. I kind of feel the same way, there is so much that we don't understand about this world which makes me think, why does it have to be extra-terresrial? Wonder if this is a way of monotoring another dimension?
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on August 09, 2010, 08:20:25 PM
please do not mistake my position i do NOT take the stance that these are extraterrestrial and are very much terrestrial to our planet, actually they are more terrestrial than we are.  I'm leaning towards two theories, one that they are extra diminensional and even when we see them we cannot see higher than their 3d cross-section or the 4d+ object is hidden from view due to our biological 3d limitations to perceive them.  Another explination is that this still very well could be some sort of exotic black goverment technology.  The goverment IS tied to the ranch and has funded the entire project now for years.  Also the events there did not occur until after the Shermans bought the property (NOT BEFORE as the skinwalker book alludes to).  Thus the goverment for whatever reason may have built something in the 80's that the shermans were exposed to, and which Bigelow with his nefarious goverment ties bought to seal up the place from outside eyes.,..especially given its attention in the Desert News article which brough this place to the publics attention.

I lean more towards the extra dimensional lifeform at the moment, but i'm still not sure if there is a degree of A.I. built into these orbs.  They seem very percision orientated and obviously emotionless.  To me at least they have a robotic feel UNlike other phenomona on the ranch.... but who am i to begin to understand an Extra Dimensional Entity's mindset?
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: rbsredtruck on August 09, 2010, 09:53:57 PM
The thing that i don't get is.. well the whole thing.  If somone was controlling it, What would that mean? From what i've seen of this thing it just doesnt seem possible that it is under our control. So the Shermans bought this property and then the odd things started to happen afterwards? I was under the impression that Junior Hicks was recording the odd activity in the area since the 50's(or are we talking specifically about the ranch itself? or are we talking about the orb specifically not being reported until after the shermans?).
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on August 09, 2010, 10:12:50 PM
the Utinah Basin has been active since the 30's according to Junior Hicks, however the ranch has NOT had much activity prior to the Shermans perchase.  There is a unique story however of John Garcia (the neighbor) seeing a giant basketball shaped metal sphere in his backyard near the Skinwalker Ranch prior to the Shermans purchase.  The metal ball apparently took flight when he approached and dissapeared.
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on August 09, 2010, 10:40:48 PM
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The thing that i don't get is.. well the whole thing.  If somone was controlling it, What would that mean? From what i've seen of this thing it just doesnt seem possible that it is under our control.

it would be a topside survaliance drone, but again this is not a hypothesis i actively support...but it does carry some weight.  I think even the caretakers and guards likely have any clue as it its purpose and consider it to be part of the ET phenomona. 

Whatever it is seems aware of "new" witnesses to the area and in my opinon takes a more visible\threatening? presense to those who may not belong there.  It likely is loaded with sensors , noiseless, has cloaking tech, and takes arial recon photos of anyone found too close to this recently active site.  But again this is just a subtheory to many i have regarding the ranch and not my favorite.

I have however felt a surviallance like role to whatever the hell these things are...and typically different phenomona will occur after witnessing one of these so perhaps they are AI drones scouting the area prior to the arrival of the controlling entities. puuuuuuuuuure speculation but ...the more lively events seem to occur AFTER witnessing one (or more) of these.
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on August 21, 2010, 08:54:11 PM
supposedly from a inside source these orbs have a machine like intelligence, are machine like in function, and operate as a survalliance drone.  they also will let potential threats be warned with a buzzing and vibration of itself prior to it potentially taking aggressive action.  they will apparently observe both animals and humans and expect a close encounter with these as they like to observe their subjects up close.  They will however fly away after a few moments.  they also typically can and will cause power outages.
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: Hero on August 24, 2010, 03:54:40 AM
Good post! Dont know what its worth, but I used to believe the orbs were human controlled or military in nature, but I'm not so sure anymore. The orbs have all but left the ranch and moved north and spanned east and west in both directions and over the ridge ways and washes. They have kept to the north for close to a year. They are no longer in the valley the ranch occupies as frequently as they were. As Skinwalker said there is very little structure behind them... I am starting to wonder...
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: rbsredtruck on August 24, 2010, 02:02:44 PM
Good post! Dont know what its worth, but I used to believe the orbs were human controlled or military in nature, but I'm not so sure anymore. The orbs have all but left the ranch and moved north and spanned east and west in both directions and over the ridge ways and washes.
   
I wonder why? I had another expierence last weekend this time was in the vermillion basin area. This time there was two of them which was a first . They seemed to be searching the ground for something. I was in a state of fear that i have not expierenced in my entire life. I literally couldnt function, I knew the camera was in my hands, i knew that i wanted to take a picture, but i couldnt even lift my arms. I was up there with a the same friend who i was with in dino, and he seems to communicate with these things without knowing it, he always gets real calm and will whisper instead of talking(like in a trance) immeadetly before we have a sighting. I dont know what to think of all this. I always try to see things from many perspectives, i think they are extremely intelligent, but i cant see any way for them to be human controlled or military. That is just my opinion though.
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: terro on August 26, 2010, 12:15:02 AM
That sounds like a scary encounter, do you notice any lingering physical effects after?
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on August 26, 2010, 01:24:53 PM
Good post! Dont know what its worth, but I used to believe the orbs were human controlled or military in nature, but I'm not so sure anymore. The orbs have all but left the ranch and moved north and spanned east and west in both directions and over the ridge ways and washes.
   
I wonder why? I had another expierence last weekend this time was in the vermillion basin area. This time there was two of them which was a first . They seemed to be searching the ground for something. I was in a state of fear that i have not expierenced in my entire life. I literally couldnt function, I knew the camera was in my hands, i knew that i wanted to take a picture, but i couldnt even lift my arms. I was up there with a the same friend who i was with in dino, and he seems to communicate with these things without knowing it, he always gets real calm and will whisper instead of talking(like in a trance) immeadetly before we have a sighting. I dont know what to think of all this. I always try to see things from many perspectives, i think they are extremely intelligent, but i cant see any way for them to be human controlled or military. That is just my opinion though.

sounds exactly like one of my own encounters.  I had the video camera in my hand and no matter how hard i tried i was so overwhelmed with fear that i could not start taping, instead i started running in an complete state of panic.  I also go into a trance like medative state prior to seeing these, and oddly feel i can communicate with them prior to their arrival (but not during the encounter).
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on November 05, 2010, 07:12:33 PM
[youtube]WKWBmRZ3t9U[/youtube]  lespaul just shared this video with me.  this is an actual case investigated by Bigelow, NIDS, and Col. Alexander

they found this video to be interesting enough to directly investigate this property in Colorado.  I'm impressed as well by the video...especailly as this was a time before CGI

althought not exactly what i saw on the ranch, this does look and sound very similiar to an incident Hero from heroparanormal had near the ranch...
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: lespaul on November 05, 2010, 07:32:06 PM
Forrest Orbs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXnv8en8YE0&feature=fvw#)
This is another from the home. Both vids were caught on surveillance cameras that Mr Lee put up to capture the phenomena.
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: KingC on November 06, 2010, 04:13:30 AM
i got a question for skinwalker or hero, did/do u ever see them blinking lights fly around? they blink red/blueish and they just circle around here in the basin? what are they? they are completely silent and sometimes there will be 2-4 of them, and they sometimes fly side by side. they seem to be looking for something? thats what it seems to me anyways.
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: Hero on November 06, 2010, 07:18:06 AM
King C...  I do think they are looking for something/scanning the ground. I believe it is biological entities they are targetting. As amazing as they are, I have a healthy respect for them.
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on November 06, 2010, 03:18:47 PM
i got a question for skinwalker or hero, did/do u ever see them blinking lights fly around? they blink red/blueish and they just circle around here in the basin? what are they? they are completely silent and sometimes there will be 2-4 of them, and they sometimes fly side by side. they seem to be looking for something? thats what it seems to me anyways.

yes we both saw them flying around, yes we saw between 2-4  (one time we saw maybe 9 of them).  Yes they seem to be searching for something.  The ones i saw seem to be flying in formation.  I agree with Hero I think they are looking for biologcal animals...humans..whatever.
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on March 25, 2012, 03:15:27 AM
Tony just posted this orb related story to me

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2010-07-27
 1981-06-27
 Two animate UFOs were seen by a group of 15 individuals, who were camped in Cow Canyon , on Lake Powell .
 

 

 

I was a Park Ranger assigned in law enforcement at Glen Canyon National Recreation Area ( Lake Powell ). On the night of 6/29/1981 a gentleman called the Wahweap District Ranger Office and requested a Ranger meet him at the Wahweap launch ramp. A Ranger responded and took this formal Department of Interior, National Park Service, Case Incident Report. The incident was given Case Incident Number 811310.

The gentleman reported, that two nights earlier, his group of 15 individuals from Salt Lake City , Utah were camping in Cow Canyon , in the Escalante River Arm, of Lake Powell . The group were all members of the LDS Church and there was absolutely no use of alcohol, or drugs on the trip. The group had a houseboat, that was used as a base, for the trip.

NOTE: The following account is taken directly and verbatim from the National Park Service Case Incident Report Number 811310. I have used quotation marks for all information taken verbatim from the Case Incident Report. Where I have used the word "NAME" I have left out the name of the person who gave the account of the incident, to the National Park Service. I have corrected some obvious spelling errors that were in the original account and I have put in brackets ( ) information that can clarify the report, to persons reading it.

"On 06-29-81, at approximately 1715 Hrs.(5:15 p.m.), recieved a call from a visitor wanting to report a strange experience in the Escalante River . I contacted NAME at approx. 1745 Hrs.(5:45 p.m.), on the launch ramp (Wahweap launch ramp). On 06-27-81, at approximately 2230 Hrs. (10:30 p.m.), NAME and 14 other persons in his group were camped in Cow Canyon , a side canyon off the Escalante ( Escalante River arm of Lake Powell ).
"Name" was about to tell the group a story of an incident his family experienced five years earlier in Explorer Canyon, which is the next canyon south of Cow Canyon, when the same experience began to happen again. A bright light, which was described to be flashing at 2-4 second intervals, was coming down the left side of the canyon in midair. It circled above the group and then flew down the right side of the canyon. The light was described to be similar to a strobe light and bright enough to light up the canyon wall. The group observed the light flying in close proximity to their campsite for approximately one and a half (1 1/2) hours. At one point it (the object) was thirty (30) feet away when group member shined a spot light on it and described what he saw as "creature-like." Further details include: "winged and larger than a bat." NAME then stated that another light appeared and seemed to flash a signal which was answered by the original light. Both lights then disappeared down the middle of the canyon. NAME stated that this experience was very similar to the one five (5) years ago in Explorer Canyon , only the light was brighter. No alcohol was consumed by any member of the group that night. Cleared 1800 Hrs. (6:00 p.m.)."

To me this is an amazing report. The individual making the report did not want his name used and wanted no publicity for himself. The length of time (i.e. 1 1/2 hrs.) that the object was observed, is in itself remarkable and I have not heard of any other report of this duration.

During the summer of 1981 the National Park Service received a number of reports, from visitors, camped on the shoreline of Lake Powell , of "giant fireflys." Several of the reports were recieved at the Carl Hayden Visitor Center ,located near Glen Canyon Dam. At first the National Park Service, staff members, thought the campers were seeing the strobe lights on the stacks of the Navajo Generating Station, southeast of Page, Arizona. These lights can be seen for miles but some of the campers were in canyon locations, where the power plant stacks could not be seen. It is possible that the sightings of "giant fireflys" were what the group of 15 saw on the night of 6/27/1981.

There was a second verbal report given to the Bullfrog District Ranger about a similar sighting to the 6/27/1981 one. The second report was not documented unfortunately but occured two, weeks after the 6/27/1981 report. The individuals who made the second report, were supposed to be on Lake Powell for a week, on a houseboat. The first night out of Bullfrog, Utah , where they rented the houseboat, they camped in Cow Canyon , the same canyon as the 6/27/1981 sighting. The second sighting was very similar to the first sighting. The second group were so disturbed by what they saw, that they returned to Bullfrog Marina, the following morning and turned in their houseboat and said "we are getting the hell out of here," after describing what had happened to them.

I have a kept a copy of the original Case Incident Report over the years because of the unusual nature of the UFOs observed. I did submit a copy of this case incident to the Aerial Phenomenon Research Organization in Tucson and they thought it was a most interesting sighting.
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: Tony on March 31, 2012, 05:01:48 PM
Any idea if this daytime orb video is authentic?

http://ufodisclosurecountdownclock.blogspot.com/2012/03/stunning-daytime-orb-footage-from-san.html (http://ufodisclosurecountdownclock.blogspot.com/2012/03/stunning-daytime-orb-footage-from-san.html)

Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: ninjamaster73 on April 01, 2012, 11:55:38 AM
I've never seen that orb video before from San Antonio but if it is real that is amazing.
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: openureyes10 on April 03, 2012, 01:02:35 AM

Hello NINJAMASTER 73

I just read UFO Disclosure Countdown Clock and and in the article it mentioned this site or you yourself that expressed some interest in the San Antonio "cute Orb" so I came here to see myself..
I just wanted to say that it is REAL.. and in addition to seeing and filming it myself- my husband also saw it with naked eyes as it was downstairs approx 60 ft away from us..
Also while i am at it to tell u that I film Orbs here where i live and that I have had orb in bedroom that was very similar to the one in the vid that "just appeared" in front of my tv- a tv that just placed in my room to start viewing 4+ months of footage for first time that I had been filming at night after my first "sighting" almost 2 yrs ago.                         Also that I have had Orbs, one in particular about dime-nickel size that popped into view daytime less than foot or two away from me-- it was so cute I smiled at it and it popped back out of view.
In addition I know that the Orbs come onto my porch while filming at night- flashes of light-streak of light for split second.. since reading UDCC site i have tried "calling" Orbs as well as praying for them..(praying part because thats what I do)
AND- I film Orbs of all colors-shapes and sizes.. I don't begin to say i understand why except perhaps because i film sooo much practially everyday- so are orbs everwhere? I happen to believe so.. but WHY?? or Where are they from?? WHAT do they want? I am not afraid of them- but have been very frightened for a long while after 1st sighting...??
After my "first sighting" I, for a long while, felt a "connection" (crazy as THAT sounds)and "communicated" or felt as if I could with "Them"..lol

I'm running on-- just really wanted to say  that the video is real- believe it or not.. and I have some pics from way back when first started filming of "object- Orb" coming in thr bars at night on porch- I didn't see it only on film- but it must have been really fast as it has a corkscrew trail at back end of "it".
Thank you,
openureyes10
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: ninjamaster73 on April 04, 2012, 05:50:59 AM
So do you feel any hostility or maybe comfort from these orbs? Or do they just appear and disappear with no effect on the body?
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: Tony on April 06, 2012, 03:17:53 AM
Openureyes10,

Can you please provide more context and background on your experiences and videos?
For example,

1) Do you live in rural or urban setting?

2) Do you live in/or near an area that has historical or spiritual attributes (like old cemetery, native American burial ground, native American holy place, etc.)?

3) Are these orbs you see and film, seen any time and any day (randomly) or periodically on specific days/times? Do you see them at night or only daytime?

4) Are you the only person who see these orbs or do you have other eyewitnesses who also see them when you film them?

5) How close have you gotten to them?

6) What makes you feel that they are sentient?

7) How big of an area do they appear? Only around your house or around the whole neighborhood or around the whole town?

Thanks much, Tony
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: openureyes10 on April 06, 2012, 10:01:53 PM
Openureyes10,

Can you please provide more context and background on your experiences and videos?
For example,

1) Do you live in rural or urban setting?

2) Do you live in/or near an area that has historical or spiritual attributes (like old cemetery, native American burial ground, native American holy place, etc.)?

3) Are these orbs you see and film, seen any time and any day (randomly) or periodically on specific days/times? Do you see them at night or only daytime?

4) Are you the only person who see these orbs or do you have other eyewitnesses who also see them when you film them?

5) How close have you gotten to them?

6) What makes you feel that they are sentient?

7) How big of an area do they appear? Only around your house or around the whole neighborhood or around the whole town?

Thanks much, Tony


Tony,

I am happy to give you more information on my experiences, as strange as they are. In response to your questions:

1. I live on the NW side of San Antonio, TX in a third floor apartment. My balcony faces a large green area with an unobstructed view to the north and northwest horizon.
2. I am not aware of any historical or spiritual attributes associated with the area. However, approximately 7 miles north is Camp Bullis, which is an Air Force training center.
3. My sightings have occurred both day and night and not just restricted to my apartment complex.
4. The sightings usually occur when I am alone; however, there are three instances with witnesses.
5. The closest sighting was a nickel sized white orb that appeared just outside my balcony railing, less than 2 feet away.
6. This is an interesting question. There have been times that I have mentally called out to them, asking them to appear, and before the ‘cute orb’ video was filmed I had been mentally asking for them to slow down so I could have clear footage.  Does this mean they are aware and responded? Or is it just coincidence? I don’t know. The Thanksgiving 2010 sighting, I had been mentally projecting for a craft to appear so that my daughter could witness. Several hours later we both saw a craft that hovered silently over a home adjacent to this property.
7. I have sighted unexplained objects within the green area below my balcony; within the horizon I have seen or filmed crafts, orbs, objects, rods, and strange lights; and away from the immediate area, which is several miles away.

I’d now to share some experiences.

The first sighting was three amber spheres with six or seven small white orbs dancing around them. This was seen during the daytime.  Several days later, while at Walmart, I saw a small dull, dark, rectangular box above the parking lot lights at approximately 8:30 pm.  A day or two later there was a small metallic object hovering and rotating above the treetops in the green area during the afternoon.  These first three sightings occurred during a time span of 7-10 days.

Shortly after, I witnessed through binoculars a brilliant white light on the NW horizon that within a few moments transformed into an airplane. It flew a short distance then stopped ejected a small object and vanished. It didn’t fly away, it simply disappeared.

I observed a large grey, military like, airplane that just hung in the sky with its nose down in the approximate location of the first sighting of spheres.

These are but a few of the many, many sightings I have witnessed over the past two years.  I have thousands of hours of video, which I had never listened to, but I recently discovered I had recorded audio of a woman’s voice speaking. Another audio was hissing and then a third was a growl.  I stopped listening.
I hope this answers some of your questions but undoubtedly, it creates more.

Thank you,
openyoureyes10
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: Tony on April 06, 2012, 11:21:23 PM
Thank you very much, Openyoureyes10, for your thorough and prompt reply.

You are certainly a fascinating person with some extraordinary experiences.

You bring up a key question that I always had:  is phenomena associated with a specific geographic location or with a person.

In the past I arrived at the following conclusion:  It is not where you are but who you are with, that determines if you have a sighting.

While in this forum we are very focused on the Skinwalker Ranch location - where phenomena is repeatedly seen.
I am still not convinced that it is not tied to people.
For example, the phenomena at Skinwalker Ranch really increased when Terry Sherman moved it.  Did he had more to do with it than the location?
Likewise, Ryan Burns and Ryan Skinner had had numerous anomalous experiences (before getting involved with the Skinwalker Ranch area), but is it them that attracts it or allows them to see it or is it the location.

I don't know for sure, but this is my working hypothesis.  Some people are just more aware or in tuned or open to seeing these odd phenomena.

Hopefully, the MUFON video experts or other scientific folks are examining your videos for acquiring knowledge or at least try to come up with a Hypothesis on what these orbs are and what they are not.
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on April 08, 2012, 02:05:53 AM
i will try to review these interesting replies and topics when i have more time.  I honestly believe the key to beginning to unravel this interdimensional mystery is an understanding of these orbs.

Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: openureyes10 on April 10, 2012, 05:07:02 AM

Ninjamaster,

Regarding your previous questions I do not feel threatened or am aware of any particular emotions they may have caused  except my own "wonder" , "awe" and "fear" of the unknown- I do believe they may have been playing with me after first sightings began. After those sightings I would Skywatch at night  and the Orbs would become visible for few seconds as they would fly by or onto my balcony.

I'm going to try "calling" them again and if I capture anything close will let you know.. hope you didn't mind that I sent you a pm last week but I didn't want to post it publically as if I was promoting myself.
Thank you
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: ninjamaster73 on April 10, 2012, 11:34:34 AM
I think thats amazing...I have family in Kenedy, TX and Houston and my Tribe is from Texas as well....maybe one day we could set something up (thermal camera, IR camera and Full spectrum camera) and see if what we come up with?
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: openureyes10 on April 10, 2012, 01:03:19 PM

That would be great if you could document some Orbs or other paranormal activity although if possible within next 3 months as I am moving end of July.
Our "unofficial" investigater of our SA Mufon whose channel name YT is cooterlooter has tried filming here several times and pretty much unsuccessful at capturing anything except what he said was craft at distance that didn't have typical charactistics of aircrafts that he normals films using camcorder, slow exposure camera and infra red binoculars.  Although he did capture green Orb(s) on last visit two weeks ago at twilight several hundred yards away he needed to review footage to see if he captured others.
It will be interesting to see if Orbs are as numerous at my new location that will also be here in San Antonio.
I did see several Orbs at my friends house but I was only one that saw them. One was rather large red Orb or what I believe was Orb streak by her stainless refrigerator for a second while several of us were gathered in her kitchen nothing else could have caused the red flash. It happened while we were viewing my friends daughters cell phone looking at pics from their trip to Alaska.
Do you believe Orbs can interact with our dreams?

Thank you
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: openureyes10 on April 10, 2012, 07:43:12 PM

ninjamaster73,

Here are few pics filmed on 4-3-12 which is an example of fast moving Orb that flash by at times.
(http://s14.postimage.org/9ts4yty31/Snapshot_4_4_10_2012_2_01_PM.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/9ts4yty31/)


Hope I did the upload correctly...
Thanks
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: Artiodactyla on April 14, 2012, 05:59:26 PM
I am curious if these orbs release heat, or if they are simply a "reflection" or "out of phase" like many other skinwalker ranch things. It is very interesting!

Hey Skinwalker, I came across an FBI document (that was declassified) from 1947, which had this very long explanation about the nature of extraterrestrial life on earth. It was on ATS (aliens and UFOs) forums lately, I will see if I can track it down. The main point behind the article was that there was an extraterrestrial planet that exists overlapped with earth, just not in the same dimension. It is well worth the read.
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: openureyes10 on April 15, 2012, 07:19:14 PM
I wanted to discuss Orbs or evidence of them although not from Skin Walker Ranch-- if that is ok on this forum..

Video is of daytime Orbs but just small sample from 2 of the original videos filmed last couple of days.

[youtube]iRCDmNciADo[/youtube]
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on April 15, 2012, 07:46:32 PM
I am curious if these orbs release heat, or if they are simply a "reflection" or "out of phase" like many other skinwalker ranch things. It is very interesting!

Hey Skinwalker, I came across an FBI document (that was declassified) from 1947, which had this very long explanation about the nature of extraterrestrial life on earth. It was on ATS (aliens and UFOs) forums lately, I will see if I can track it down. The main point behind the article was that there was an extraterrestrial planet that exists overlapped with earth, just not in the same dimension. It is well worth the read.

can you please provide a link to the article?  I would very much like to read about it.  I'm actually looking for decent material to read this afternoon.
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on April 15, 2012, 07:47:59 PM

I wanted to discuss Orbs or evidence of them although not from Skin Walker Ranch-- if that is ok on this forum..

Video is of daytime Orbs but just small sample from 2 of the original videos filmed last couple of days.

[youtube]iRCDmNciADo[/youtube]

despite the name of the website being skinwalker ranch , we here on the forums are dedicated to unraveling the mystery of what these orbs are and realize they are NOT limited to just the ranch.  Your insights are extremely helpful in helping to unmask this phenomona
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on April 15, 2012, 07:52:34 PM
are you seeing these orbs at night or only during the day?  Are you now claiming you are seeing these everyday?  If i was to come out there would the orbs be visible?  In other wordsin this phenomona reproduceable daily?  :o
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: openureyes10 on April 15, 2012, 10:34:22 PM
are you seeing these orbs at night or only during the day?  Are you now claiming you are seeing these everyday?  If i was to come out there would the orbs be visible?  In other wordsin this phenomona reproduceable daily? 

Actually, I very rarely SEE them and if I do it is more like flashes for a second then gone. I film practically every day for hours day and night. So I do film them almost daily. Look- I know you don't know me but all I can say is what I post is true. 
what I find odd is that the locations I regularly film, the Orbs are not always there- even after filming same location for days. So then I start searching until find them again..
I am not seeing them at night as I was in the beginning.
And, if you want contact John Schwab, Director for San Antonio Mufon, perhaps he will vouch for me..  Your welcome to come and film anytime. I wish others could or would. There is something strange about this area. I just need to try filming elsewhere to discover if this only happening in other areas as well.
I film by placing camera on tripod and filming same location or area for 30 minutes to hour or longer. I sometimes have to download camera 2 or 3 times just in daytime. Filmings not the problem- reviewing all the footage is very-very time consuming, often frame by frame.
As soon as I finish this response I am going to upload raw footage from yesterday without pics but will cut it to 15 minutes so you can see what I am not putting on the videos.
Thanks
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: openureyes10 on April 16, 2012, 02:21:53 AM
If i was to come out there would the orbs be visible?  

Skinwalker,
Here is the raw video I stated I would upload. Unfortunately it is longer than I intended but it is 2 complete videos at 27 minutes total.
The second half of it is a much shorter  video as batteries were dead, and was filmed while my husband and I were Barbequing.  The fence line was approx. 30-40 feet away from us.

[youtube]OaKSs4Kj2Ao[/youtube]
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on April 16, 2012, 05:40:50 PM
can you see them with your naked eye?  do they only show up on film after review?  Can you see them in the camera viewfinder but not see them with your unassisted eye?
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: openureyes10 on April 16, 2012, 08:15:51 PM

Actually if you just stare at the area I am currently filming along the fence in particular area you can see flash of something. Just like sometimes  I am just looking out at the sky I will see "something" briefly- a second or two- a sence that something is moving by- directly in front of my view or futhur out in sky. I just do not sit and stare or watch while filming- I suppose I could give it a try.
While filming if I do look at the camera screen, can at times see something moving. So in answer to your question, yes you can see if your really looking for it- but sometimes there is more activity than had been occuring, like "peak" times for activity. I haven't tried determining time frames, but can start, to see activity bursts timeframe.
I am again attaching link just uploaded from 4-10-12 camera which was second download of the day. It is only 10-11 minutes again raw footage but this has LOTS of ORBS of various sizes and shapes.
I would like to point out that the previous raw fotage vid mainly was filmed about 20 feet right of todays downloaded footage- you can see the difference. I do not know why the Orbs seem to be concentrating there- but they are..

[youtube]ORBS- Alot of activity within 10 minute span. filmed 4-10-12(1) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in8kG3fbqYw#ws)[/youtube]
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: lespaul on April 16, 2012, 11:26:43 PM


Do you know the name of the creek or what that water leads to behind the apt?

I go to San Antonio at least once a month for work and my gf is from there.

Are you closer to Bullis or Lackland?

San Antonio seems to be having more anomalous activity happening these days.

Thank you again for sharing these stories.

Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: openureyes10 on April 17, 2012, 12:21:56 AM


Do you know the name of the creek or what that water leads to behind the apt?

I go to San Antonio at least once a month for work and my gf is from there.

Are you closer to Bullis or Lackland?

San Antonio seems to be having more anomalous activity happening these days.

Thank you again for sharing these stories



lespaul,

I'm not aware of any water surrounding these apartments. Beyond  fence are the trees and brush then a run of field that is approx  50 yards width x length undetermined goes back a fairly long distance.  Directly across street is undeveloped field but construction on new homes approx 2 acres further North. beyond that homes, etc. Camp Bullis is approx 7 miles North of me.

If your planning on being in SA - maybe arrangements could be made if you wanted to film for yourself.
FYI: today before filming I turned off night Lux as well as changed frame rate back to normal so less frames but better definition. The faint orbs didn't appear on film but few really special ones did on 1st video of the day.

I have to agree with you about anamalous activity here...
(http://s10.postimage.org/vbbdxvipx/20120317230345_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/vbbdxvipx/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/w0djrenxp/20120317230345_77.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/w0djrenxp/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/a3gek0d91/20120317230345_93.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/a3gek0d91/)
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: openureyes10 on April 17, 2012, 12:25:54 AM
lespaul,
Pics do not show well.
Here is the video I tried to link for skinwalker that has quite abit of Orb activity.

[youtube]in8kG3fbqYw[/youtube]
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: Tony on April 20, 2012, 11:11:14 PM
I wanted to discuss Orbs or evidence of them although not from Skin Walker Ranch-- if that is ok on this forum..

Video is of daytime Orbs but just small sample from 2 of the original videos filmed last couple of days.

[youtube]iRCDmNciADo[/youtube]

After seeing this video, I have become skeptical of the claims.
Take a look at the bird at ~3:06, it is clearly out of focus and shines with the same colors as the "orbs".
Had the bird been smaller, it would have looked just like an orb.
I am beginning to think that most of these images are insects videotaped out of focus.
It also appears that some these videos are being filmed without an attendant, so there is no eyewitness to corroborate the claim.

My suggestion is to follow the following rules:
1) Only pay attention to videos where the object seen has also been seen by the eyewitness (otherwise you could be fooled by video artifacts and out of focus images).
2) If only one person is seeing these orbs, then don't bother posting them. It is the old Allen Hynek saying  - "one eyewitness is no eyewitness".
3) If an independent 3rd party captures the same image of the orb as you, and it is considered an anomaly, then it is more newsworthy.







Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: openureyes10 on April 20, 2012, 11:56:06 PM


2) If only one person is seeing these orbs, then don't bother posting them. It is the old Allen Hynek saying  - "one eyewitness is no eyewitness".
3) If an independent 3rd party captures the same image of the orb as you, and it is considered an anomaly, then it is more newsworthy.


Tony,
I appreciate your input although I do not agree with your opinions.  I see your a Senior member and I haven't read though all this forum completely but I assume by your statement you have never reported or have spoken of a "sighting" or anything of the sort unless you also had an "eyewitness". 

Tomorrow evening a fellow mufon member is supossed to be coming by to film here. We will see then if I am incorrect in stating the objects are Orbs and not just some blurred object as you suggest. If i am incorrect I will be sure to let you know as my intention is only for disclosure and would hate to think that I have wasted 2 yrs of my life in a silly misunderstanding of what I had been filming.

Also, don't forget my husband also saw the "Cute Day time orb" that I filmed so I suppose you would then call that a "true sighting" mmmmmm
Perhaps not since he is my husband and this must all be some type conspiracy?????????????
Thanks again for you insightful input...
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on April 21, 2012, 02:04:45 AM
Tony is one of the best investigators in the field and I think his statements are ment to help you to add strength to your claim.  Its one thing if your the only person witnessing the phenomona, it DOESNT means its fake, however on the grander scale, it fails to constitute as proof.  The more evidence, witnesses, and reproducing the event all add credability to the larger more skeptical audience out there
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: openureyes10 on April 21, 2012, 03:21:12 AM
Tony is one of the best investigators in the field and I think his statements are ment to help you to add strength to your claim.  Its one thing if your the only person witnessing the phenomona, it DOESNT means its fake, however on the grander scale, it fails to constitute as proof.  The more evidence, witnesses, and reproducing the event all add credability to the larger more skeptical audience out there

OK, I meant no disrespect.. BUT..
After year and half filming Orbs- last yr they were across Street by a school and now right here by me and after repeatly being riducled by friends, family and strangers, called fake, laughed at- not believed- it does become more difficult as time goes by.. trying to convince some people who happen to have their heads in sand...
I have TRIED to get others to document what I have been filming.. Only one person from Mufon ( who is coming tomorrrow to film) is interested or is someone I trust.
Last year a military guy and his SILENT wife came to meeting- introduced himself and wanted to "verify" some of my vids. The guy was strange and others their
felt" it too, he wanted me to contact him..So, of course that wouldn't work.. This year another "Airforce guy" showed up day after "Cute Orb" featured on UDCC at meeting- again introduced himself- funny thing I was told by Webmaster of UDCC by email that San Antonio Military base visited his site day Cute orb was featured- next day the airforce guy showed up..
Sorry I am "whinning" but if you have any way to suggest that I can get someone to take what is going on here seriously- I am all ears..
I only have filed 3 UFO reports in the 2 yrs and I have seen MANY CRAZY THINGS.. of course the last time- few months ago, the Mufon investigator wasn't as interested in the actual "object" as he was what he believed to be an "Alien" in the trees behind the object.. HAHA.. HOW CRAZY WAS THAT? I had to tell him it was a shadow in the bushes as if I wouldn't have noticed THAT..
I admit some of the objects may be birds in super fast flight-- I just happen to believe they shapeshift and can "look" like birds.. I
I have tried last few days filming Orbs in flight- captured a few for few seconds- it is as thought they "feel" the camera and I caught one that accelerated very rapidly so fast you cant see except 2frames and it doesn't look like it did before acceleration- changed shape- not blurred as leaves in background are still visible.
So, sorry if i offended anyone and hopefully can submit Mufon friend video showing Orbs so I can prove my vids to be accurate and can then "bow out" gracefully..
Thanks again for your time.
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: openureyes10 on April 22, 2012, 03:42:05 AM

Results of two camcorders and camera with long exposure:

Started filming from downstairs approx 6:30pm.  During the 30 minutes filming downstairs, approx 10-15 ft away, very few insects, Orbs or "Objects" visible,recorded or filmed.
7:00pm re-set up equipment upstairs where I normally film on 3rd floor balcony and once again countless Orbs and Objects are recorded.
Upon discussion we decided the difference in light reflection from being 3 flights up must be the cause.

Once my Mufon co-member, You Tube channel name Cooterlooter, has time to view and upload footage will do so. He was astonished at the amount and variety of orbs and Objects recorded. Although only seen this time through the camera screens and not visible to naked eyes, he himself stated "their were thousands of objects" and was exicited to return home to view footage more throughly.
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on April 22, 2012, 02:42:49 PM
Quote
Last year a military guy and his SILENT wife came to meeting- introduced himself and wanted to "verify" some of my vids. The guy was strange and others their
felt" it too, he wanted me to contact him..So, of course that wouldn't work..

did either one happen to look like this?

(http://jimharold.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/ColAlexander.jpg)

john AND his wife have commonly shown up to these sorts of events.  He is definately described as an enigmatic character.

I believe this is his wife

(http://www.whale.to/c/edward1.jpg)
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: openureyes10 on April 24, 2012, 01:08:51 AM


this was more like it..

(http://s13.postimage.org/xsmjn8k8z/Aliens.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/xsmjn8k8z/)
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: Artiodactyla on April 25, 2012, 01:55:54 PM
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread822858/pg1 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread822858/pg1)

There is that FBI document skinwalker.
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on April 25, 2012, 05:23:45 PM


this was more like it..

(http://s13.postimage.org/xsmjn8k8z/Aliens.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/xsmjn8k8z/)


Quote
Last year a military guy and his SILENT wife came to meeting- introduced himself and wanted to "verify" some of my vids. The guy was strange and others their
felt" it too, he wanted me to contact him..So, of course that wouldn't work.. This year another "Airforce guy" showed up day after "Cute Orb" featured on UDCC at meeting

so the military guy and his wife dont look like a military guy and wife instead they look like naked aliens???  sorry now you are completely losing me and my interest.  The airforce guy also looks like a naked white cgi-inspired bug eyed alien who knocked on your door to talk to you as well?  I'm now starting to get skeptical
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on April 25, 2012, 05:24:50 PM
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread822858/pg1 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread822858/pg1)

There is that FBI document skinwalker.

thanks for the link reading up now!  :)
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on April 25, 2012, 09:55:00 PM
Excellent link. The almost sums up the visitors origins.
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on April 26, 2012, 03:45:18 PM

I'd really like to know who wrote this letter to the FBI.  Seems to have the proper credentials.

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1. Part of the disks carry crews, others are under remote control

2. Their mission is peaceful. The visitors contemplate settling on this plane

3. These visitors are human-like but much larger in size

4. They are not excarnate Earth people, but come from their own world

5. They do NOT come from a planet as we use the word, but from an etheric planet which interpenetrates with our own and is not perceptible to us

6. The bodies of the visitors, and the craft, automatically materialize on entering the vibratory rate of our dense matter

7. The disks posses a type of radiant energy or a ray, which will easily disintegrate any attacking ship. They reenter the etheric at will, and so simply disappear from our vision, without trace

8. The region from which they come is not the "astral plane", but corresponds to the Lokas or Talas. Students of osoteric matters will understand these terms.

9. They probably can not be reached by radio, but probably can be by radar. if a signal system can be devised for that (apparatus

Addendum: The Lokas are oval shape, fluted length
oval with a heat-resistaning metal or alloy not yet known
the front cage contains the controls, the middle portion a
laboratory; the rear contains armament, which consists essentially of a powerful
energy apparatus, perhaps a ray



Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on July 27, 2012, 01:02:50 AM
(http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/picturesh/vg100.jpg)
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The Vril Gammagische Auge (Magic Eye) is a claimed Nazi espionage and reconnaissance device which was in the development stage in early 1945. 

Vril Gesellschaft Ing. Rolf Engel developed a miniature Vril Triebwerk (Thrustwork) EMG (Electro-Magnetic-Gravitic) engine and put it into a melon-shaped lightly armored body with a diameter of 40cm (1 foot 4 inches). The body had a reception antenna, a central small television camera, a Schusswaffe (Shot weapon), and a telescopic arm that held another miniature camera and a sound microphone.

By virtue of its design and connection to Vril,  the  magic eye would have the ability to emerge and submerge dimensionally - appearing and disappearing at will. As such, this device was suitable for a wide range of military duties that included aerial recon, submarine protection, and especially espionage (foreign and domestic). The advantage here was invisibility. While the main body of the probe remained in the invisible part of inter-dimensional space, the telescopic sensor arm could lower its other camera and microphone into our dimension for spying.

The craft was so small that no factories were required to build it. It was a cottage industry device, able to be assembled in a home, garage, apartment, barn, shed, etc… thus, no fear of Allied recovery of major documentation on the device. Ease of assembly and disassembly would make it an ideal device.

By early 1945, Rolf Engel had performed lab tests with the power plant for this device and work was well underway on miniaturizing television equipment down from the bulky 1936 Nazi Olympics cameras to cameras that were just a few times larger than the postwar lipstick cameras of the 1960s. Work on advanced television guidance for missiles had been perfected for the Hs-293D missile and for Mistel composite aircraft being developed by DFS. The very small Argus As-292 target drone had by this time also been converted over to an RPV (Remotely Piloted Vehicle) equipped with small Zeiss optical and infra-red cameras in its small cylindrical body. These went unnoticed by the Allies and none were shot down.
Title: Re: evidence of the orbs straight from the book
Post by: skinwalker on December 07, 2012, 12:17:50 AM
a supposed Bigelow insider had this to say about the orbs...

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The portals appear like a sphere floating in the center of perception. Sensation of strong turbulence in the fluid around the sphere.